We really quite liked it, and had a top-notch discussion. Brief notes and possible spoilers below:
In our initial go-around, we brought up a bunch of topics we'd expand on through the evening:
- Very intrigued by the magic "system", particularly the kind used by Agnieszka. More artistic than many recent fantasy examples; we compared it a great deal to folk arts, musical improvisation, and especially cooking.
- How much to consider this YA. Inconclusive!
- Baba Jaga is a plus.
- We liked the friendship angle on Kasia & Agnieszka, although to be honest we found Kasia herself, dare we say it, a bit wooden.
- Unexpectedly steamy magic/sex scenes.
- The Wood is one of the most compelling parts of the novel; a really complex evil that we spent a good deal of time analyzing.
- Talking about this in relation to the epic fantasy tradition ("is this epic fantasy?"), and particularly what it's doing with Tolkien and some other sources.
- "What's the deal with corruption?" Wondering what the Wood's influence stands for—thinking of the long SF/F tradition of using corruption/infestation/contamination as a way to think about other issues.
- We liked a lot of little nonstandard things about the plot mechanics—Agnieszka doesn't fall into most of the expectations of the genre or those around her.
- We had some critiques of the writing, almost entirely at a pacing level—a few places where it feels rough/weak, and a general consensus that it's just a little too long, somehow. The village/Wood/tower are extremely strong; the court intrigues & battle scenes felt weak by comparison.
- Analysis of the Dragon re: being a big jerk.
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Tom's words laid bare the hearts of trees and their thoughts, which were often dark and strange, and filled with a hatred of things that go free upon the earth, gnawing, biting, breaking, hacking, burning...none were more dangerous than the Great Willow: his heart was rotten, but his strength was green; and he was cunning, and a master of winds, and his song and thought ran through the woods on both sides of the river. His grey thirsty spirit drew power out of the earth and spread like fine-root threads in the ground, and invisible twig-fingers in the air...
-Book I, "In the House of Tom Bombadil"

Talking about the evil of the Wood in Uprooted—which is a really well-done malevolence, lots of actual horrific bits, satisfyingly inhuman—sketched out a possible answer to the "what's the deal with corruption" question: it has to do with trauma, with a kind of unhealthy anger, self-consuming, and—we also talked about where the title comes from—is connected with being cut off from the past, from community, from wholeness. Which throws me back to A Wizard of Earthsea and our discussion of it, now that I think about it—much of that plot (and others of Le Guin's) having to do with personal "wholeness" and its absence.
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While not in the same caliber as Uprooted, writing-wise, I couldn't help but notice that "the Summoning" plays out a lot like the Sword of Truth in Brooks. |
We liked the parallels between the Dragon and the Queen in the Wood once we started thinking about them. Discussion of the Tower led us to tower/tunnel references, which VanderMeer's Annihilation has made inevitable for us ever since we discussed it. That kind of linked back into our talk about how the Wood's corruption is effectively horrific: talking about the spores and "strangling fruit" of Annhilation alongside the idea that being contaminated by the Wood is at least as terrifying as any of its physical monsters. The tower and other aspects of Uprooted—the descent into a foundation kind of haunted by previous events, the current evil as actually a twisted justice for an ancient wrong, things about how nature is dealt with—really put me in mind of Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, but it's hard to say if that might be an influence or if Williams was just pulling on a lot of the same sources that inspired Novik. MST has a Baba Jaga, too, one should note.
I've been thinking about doing a re-read of those for a while, and mentioning that took us into a brief and intriguing digression on re-reading and how things age. Reading great contemporary fantasy like Uprooted—Think Galactic's read N.K. Jemisin & Sofia Samatar recently, for instance—has a kind of spoiling effect on most (not all) older fantasy. It's that much harder to overlook the frequent sexual and cultural erasure (at best) with good modern counterexamples in addition to being a bit older and wiser readers. As seems to happen every few clubs, we debated the wisdom of re-reading McCaffrey's Pern books—which debate also wrapped around to Novik's Temeraire series, blurbed as "Napoleonic wars w/dragons".
Lots of discussion about how this flips the script a bit on "Nature Benevolent"—intriguing that Uprooted uses a lot of nature signifiers (the color green, the smell of fresh plants) to indicate evil rather than good. We wondered if the increasing urbanization of humans has led us to look with nostalgic eyes at nature, where folks that historically lived close to potentially dangerous/predator-harboring forests weren't exactly all tree-huggy all the time. Some hilarious slash socially-insightful anecdotes on city vs. rural life were shared, and we mentioned The Blair Witch Project and some others as counterexamples to the "nature automatically equals good" trend.
Tons of other awesome discussion points I didn't capture well enough to write up. Half-decipherable notes include:
- The Police song "Don't Stand So Close to Me"
- Of secretly-turned Wood-agents: "They're plants!"
- My Fair Lady, Pygmalion, Galatea, Galatea 2.2, documentaries on sex robots
- "Prickly mortification"
- High art vs. low art (false) distinction—talking of magic styles
- Silvia Moreno-Garcia's Signal to Noise
- Much discussion of Twin Peaks and Black Lodge mixed in here somehow
- Memory, trauma, and not being able to move on.
- It was Rex Harrison who we couldn't remember.
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